Templar Treasure, need help

[Darkwater]

Fair enough , I had no idea . Now I see what you mean .

The Irish must have held her in high regard though , as the seat of the high kings of Ireland was there (TARA) for hundreds of years . It supposedly means "place of great prospect" ? But I wasnt aware of the Goddess called Tara . In Ireland , a not so commion girls name is "TARA" . In fact , Saint Patrick was said to have visited Tara , to preach Christianity to the pagen kings ? Obviously he succeded .

Maybe of interest to you ..... http://mythicalireland.com/ ..... there is a small vidoe about Newgrange , just a couple of minutes .

My Mom has a copy of the TARA brooch , copied from the book of Kells I think it is ?

But as we know , the Catholic church put an end to any thoughts of Female Gods ..... Im open to the idea , as its perfectly possible in my book anyway . One day i will know all the truth !!!

Can you point me in the direction of a decent web page explaining about the Goddess Tara please , as there is a lot of burbel out there . Thank you in advance

Not far away in Newgrange , and the area is stepped in historic legands . I had the good fortune of visiting Newgrange a few years ago . Its amazing that was done by people with very little . They reckon the white stones cane from the Wicklow mountains . A long way to cart stones , possibily before the wheel was invented . The guide maintains the stones were transported there via a small type of round boat , as the countryside was too covered with forest , which made the going tough .

I was amazed at the monument . The roof has its slate stones laid over each other like modern roof tiles , and slightly canted down , so when it rains it doesnt get wet inside the chamber . Ive been inside the Grave , but not at the solstice . You gotta be a special person to be invited inside for that event . Years ago they had a national lottery prize , which was to witness the sun shining into the back chamber , from the inside . Its supposed to contain a buriel chamber of a high king , not sure which one though .

To create something like Newgrange you need a working Celtic Cross http://www.crichtonmiller.com/ezekial's_wheels.htm or ankh.

when you can work one of these with precision you can navigate the earth very easily,seeing as you can work out the mass of the earth,speed it is rotating,it's size,co-ordinates,it's shape-everything about it.As well as the course it takes following the sun chariot through the heavens,along the great river eridanus etc.etc.

The Ante-deluvians knew where it was at.....Stonehenge etc any alligned place is crude compared to Newgrange or some of the Egyptian Places(Thebes,etc) just built upon the same principals. Oldest one I know of is on the banks of the Limpopo river in south africa,over 75,000 years old,so old it is no longer *alligned*

I find madam Blatavatsky model of Ante-deluvian best,if on because she displays good strong dna.

About 100 druids are descending upon Isle of Skye in a fortnight,a couple of friends of mine are going the week before(this weekend) to check it out.

Maybe do the Speed-bonny-boat cha-cha mysel*

*moves slow & measured like an antedeluvian vampyre*

Aye yours,

Andy

search EARTH SONG FORUMS for TARA.she quite a few enthusiasts & screeds & screeds of *stuff*

Hail the Godess!Hail TARA!

[Safed]

Your after slightly spooking me now mate !!!

Ive come across some occult stuff before . My wife , whom I met while working on helicopters in the bush in Nigeria has some weird tales to tell .

They have native doctors down there ..... who can summons something which they refer to as Ju-Ju . We use that word sometimes too , even in out language . I didnt believe in that at first , but after hearing her stories I certainly wont screw about with that belief . There are differant Ju-Ju's , good & bad , water and earth , wind and fire .

In a very small village , near where she was brought up , a man was shot dead by the police . Proper shot , meaning multiple bullet wounds . Later that week a baby boy was born in that village , and in each place where the man had a bullet wound , the baby had a depression on his body . Explain that ? My wife doesnt tell lies ..... and she witnessed that herself .

Plus , her father and senior sister were supposedly murdered by a Ju-Ju . I suspect poison , but I dont know that . I was warned by her mother not to shake too many peoples hands , or to embrace people that I didnt know .

When my Grandmother died during the war , in the first days of January , she kept speaking to something high up in the corner of the room . There was a strong smell of roses . Roses dont grow in January , and in the war they didnt have enough , never mind rose smelling air fresher . I cant explain that , can you ?

I believe in good , but if you believe in good , you must also believe in the oppsite too . I am intrigued by the site that you posted , but to be honest , I will not register , because someplace inside of me , there is some worry of something that I dont understand . If its true , I can be got at !!!

I dont know if what I believe in is correct , maybe none of us do ? Cuz I also believe that the real history of the world has been purposely atlered . And I reckon there is one place that could , and should reveal all of the truths that I believe are kept there . Because that information belongs to us all , and should not be under lock and key . What right do they have to do that , and why do they do it ? You know where Im talking about I guess .

About the blood line story ..... I also believe that this is quite possible , and why not .

So , obviously you feel that there is something in the 2012 rumour ? I understand that it is not the end of the world , but the dawn of a new era ?

Is the occult all about evil things ..... or is it also about good things that the world has forgotton , or at least the mass's have forgotten ?

Just dont freak me out too much mate . lol

P.S. Did I hotlink , when I posted the link for the small video about Newgrange ? I have removed it as im not sure .

[Darkwater]

It is not my intent to spook you & I apologise if this is the case.

The more subtle effects of Daemon time (no such thing as a daemon,only a dam on time) are nothing compared to the inhumanity shown by men to there fellow men.

JUJU is obviously authentic,all energy workers rely opon the 4 elements(elementals-there are more states of matter too. ) Africa is probably to the Sumarian Daemonn time,LOL,they are cool & very *scary*.Same as it's Island Brother VOUDOU,I would hate to attract the attention of someone who maybe get some of your hair from a plughole,a drop of your blood from somewhere or some other part of your dna for foul purposes,although poor intent will attract all manner of horrible stuff.

I work with the elements as Brahman,& associate & identify completely with the Brahman Tridosha.I am a healer although with great healing can come great destruction which is something I don't usually bother with.

I can explain these seemingly inexplicable events in the terms of Universal Energy Law from VOIDian perspective if you like?aka the law of attraction?

This alligns perfectly with the subatomic or quantum field,which is the part which eluded the otherwise perfect Einstein's energy work.

Solomon used them(dams in time) too just different labels attached in different times by different people to the same energy field.

Anyone here play dominoes?I love the social side & a good harmony is as important as any aspect of any fraternity,including ritual.

eh,Occult just means hidden knowledge,nothing threatening or sinister,just dependant upon your own dreams or link to the energy universe?will,intent & purpose.


The upward swirl & downward spiral are indifferent to good & bad which is all the same Love energy(I am good at explaining this.) one leads to annhiliation of spirit(leaving you spiritless)the other leading to Unity(of spirit).

Just upward swirls & downward spirals of the same energy.

[Safed]

It is not my intent to spook you & I apologise if this is the case.

JUJU is obviously authentic,all energy workers rely opon the 4 elements(elementals-there are more states of matter too. ) Africa is probably to the Sumarian Daemonn time,LOL,they are cool & very *scary*.Same as it's Island Brother VOUDOU,I would hate to attract the attention of someone who maybe get some of your hair from a plughole,a drop of your blood from somewhere or some other part of your dna for foul purposes,although poor intent will attract all manner of horrible stuff.

No worries ..... I just find that stuff a bit spooky , probably cuz I dont understand anything about it .

So , do you think that was the reason why my wife's mother told me not to touch people , or let them touch me ?

Can certain beliefs really do something from a hair on your head , or a bloody hanky ? ..... now , that is certainly a sacry thought !!!

Ive also heard it said , that if you go to see a native doctor , for the purpose of casting a JUJU on someone , sometimes that JUJU can attack the person who instigated the curse , but not the native doctor ?

[Darkwater]

It is all just manipulation of the sub-atomic field...once you can identify the subatomic field. Then energy work is very straight forward.

If you attract negs then you best expect the worst,such is the way of the universe.If you work against the energy of the universe then the universe will eventually crush you,so best to work with it I always find. eh,as you are energy you cannot be killed,just put a place outwith normal resonation or reduced to sub-atomic state of matter.

There is some stuff I could tell you of concerning the Arthurian Knight's,whom I would refer to as *the free daemonn* and I find them to be very useful after I freed them from bondage & set them loose in the Scot's central belt which they liked.

I can get you a good description of a Sumarian Daemonn,so you know what to expect,or maybe best you don't?In any event,treat him like a long lost pal or send him Back to VOID.

As for touching hands this is a recognised method of transfer of your own resonation,I use this a lot in chanelling subatomic energy.I dragged this healing method into this dimension from my astral,then was amazed to find out that there aere books upon the subject,known as quantum healing using the quantum touch method,quantum energy being subatomic energy.

The only thing I cannot teach you is *desire,will & intent*.this is all you Safed.I keep mine pure such is my desire or allignment with VOID.

As well as being founded upon the highest principals of brotherly love,protection of the Merovingan line or House of Magdelene is another cornerstone of the KT,how are you on this.

I am careful to keep my intent well alligned,just,regular & perfect.I would have no problem ripping a witch doctor or wizard a new one(sense of perspective) & making a VOIDian Calling card out of them,then facing what lies behind them.

You too can *be the difference*,anyone can.

[Safed]

I can get you a good description of a Sumarian Daemonn,so you know what to expect,or maybe best you don't ?

As well as being founded upon the highest principals of brotherly love,protection of the Merovingan line or House of Magdelene is another cornerstone of the KT,how are you on this.

As to your first question , Im not really sure of my answer to your above question , because I dont understsnd the question , or how I may be effected by the answer .

Merovingian blood line of Christ , and Mary Madelene being the mother of Christ ..... again , I only know what common history speaks , possibily a little more than the average person may know , and we are led to believe that this is a hoax by the church .

My personal opinion on the matter is that it is possible , and sounds logical . As I said somewhere before , I can see that the Church has made it their business to try and take the glory away from the women ..... sounds like a massive mens only club to me sometimes .

[Darkwater]

briefly everything is composed of atom's resonating at different levels,until you hit the subaotomic field or vast untapped reservoir of the great unmanifest(via bose einsein condensate or quantum foam),VOID,darkmatter,this resides far outwith you & deep within you.

I've been digging through some of the Irish stuff on the CELT site,it surprises me that you would maube appear to disregard your neighbours(Glengarry) efforts,the Cluny MacPhersons.......Cluny is significant(Cluany) (god bless Avignon).

James Mac Pherson(a Cluny(Cluany) Mac Pherson does a very cool *Poems of Ossian* which I think would be more up your street?

http://solomonspalding.com/SRP/Ossian/M ... .htm#pg067 you ever read these?any reason why they are disregarded by you?

[Safed]

No , never read them . To be honest , im not a big poetry fan . Probably thats why .

[truth]

Merovech is the semi-legendary founder of the Merovingian dynasty. He allegedly lived in the first half of the fifth century. His name is a Latinization of a form close to the Old High German given name Marwig, lit. "famed fight". Some researchers have noted that Merovech, the Frankish chieftain, may have been the namesake of a certain god or demigod honored by the Franks prior to their conversion to Christianity.

The Merovingians remained in power until the eighth century. In 751, Pepin finally displaced the last Merovingian and, with the support of the nobility and the blessing of Pope Zachary, became one of the Frankish Kings. The deposed Merovingian was sent into a monastery, bereft of his symbolic long hair. With Pepin, the Carolingians ruled the Franks as Kings. The Merovingians are claimed to be the descendants of Jesus, based on a hoax originating with Pierre Plantard in the mid-twentieth century.

No Mary Magdalene was not the mother of Christ, just a different Mary in the Bible that was a follower of Christ. Jesus Christ did not have any offspring and He did not have any siblings. Jesus called James His brother the same way that I would call you brother, brother.

James Mac Pherson wrote the Poems of Ossian in the 1760s during a period when the entire country was being stolen. They were well received by mostly Germanic people, both in the British Ilse and on the Continent. Although there were immediate disputes of Macpherson's claims on both literary and political grounds. They were hotly opposed by Irish historians who felt that their heritage was being appropriated. Samuel Johnson, was convinced that Macpherson was "a mountebank, a liar, and a fraud, and that the poems were forgeries". Johnson also dismissed the poems' quality. Upon being asked, "But Doctor Johnson, do you really believe that any man today could write such poetry?" he famously replied, "Yes. Many men. Many women. And many children." Johnson is cited as calling the story of Ossian "as gross an imposition as ever the world was troubled with". The American literature professor and translator Robert Fagles alternatively refers to this book as a forged or fake "collective bardic epic".

The controversy raged on into the early years of the 19th century, with disputes as to whether the poems were based on Irish sources, on sources in English, on Gaelic fragments woven into his own composition as Johnson concluded, or largely on Scots Gaelic oral traditions and manuscripts as Macpherson claimed. Finally in 1952, Scottish poet Derick Thomson concluded that Macpherson had collected Scottish Gaelic ballads, employing scribes to record those that were preserved orally and collating manuscripts, but had adapted them by altering the original characters and ideas, and had introduced a great deal of his own.

Also on this James Macpherson page it says "The authenticity of these so-called translations from the works of a 3rd century bard was immediately challenged by Irish historians, especially Charles O'Conor, who noted technical errors in chronology and in the forming of Gaelic names, and commented on the implausibility of many of MacPherson's claims, none of which MacPherson was able to refute. More forceful denunciations were later made by Dr. Samuel Johnson, who asserted (in A Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland, 1775) that MacPherson had found fragments of poems and stories, and then woven them into a romance of his own composition. Further challenges and defences were made well into the nineteenth century, but the issue was moot by then. Macpherson never produced the originals that he claimed existed." "After Macpherson's death, Malcolm Laing, in an appendix to his History of Scotland (1800), propounded the extreme view that the so-called Ossianic poems were altogether modern in origin, and that Macpherson's authorities were practically non-existent. Much of Macpherson's matter is clearly his own, and he conflated stories belonging to different cycles."

James Mac Pherson was not from Glengarry but from Ruthven, Badenoch, Inverness-shire.

[Darkwater]

As far as I know Gar as in Glengar,or Glengarry is similar to Glar,as in Glar hole(muddy place).

My intent spike is with the place up the road from Glengarrie,Glen Cluny......You are aware of the(very antient) Cluny order as I traced it through one of your wiki links.

The Ossian moved Napolean very deeply.eh,in the days before readily available writing paper etc,how do you think major events were recorded?

Put for'd the brunt side o'yer shin
for pride in poets is nae sin!

ty for the links in the Merovingan!

Cheers.......ooh,& I'm trying to get nicer labels for my energy work too.

[truth]

Yeah for sure, in the days before writing paper the bards and shanachies kept the records. But there's just too much opposition to Macpherson's Poems of Ossian. I'm not sure what you mean about Glen Cluny. No I'm not aware of the Cluny order, I must have missed it? I haven't been to Glengarry. Is it muddy? Looking at a terrain map it looks fairly mountainous so I wouldn't have thought it as muddy. This map of the clans shows MacDonell of Glengarry in three different spots but when I think of Glengarry I think of the area that this map shows. When I read about where MacDonell's of Glengarry immigrated from it mentions Knoydart, Greenfield and one other place that I forget right now. Knoydart and Greenfield are in the area on the latter map, Knoydart being on Loch Nevis and Greenfield being by Loch Garry. I may be wrong but I'm thinking Aberchalder may have been the third spot.

[Safed]

I can get you a good description of a Sumarian Daemonn,so you know what to expect,or maybe best you don't?In any event,treat him like a long lost pal or send him Back to VOID

Ok ..... Im all interested about hearing about JUJU (Sumarian Daemonn) Andy please .

I havent gotten around to checking out the meditation yet . Ive been way too busy , kids , holidays and work ..... when I get a quite few minutes , I will give it a go . Whats required ? Just a quite room with no distractions ?