The grail IS in the Davinci Last Supper

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The grail IS in the Davinci Last Supper

Postby Anonymous » Sun May 01, 2005 11:06 am

I found this fascinating and wanted to share:

http://www.davincichalice.com/

It would seem the grail has been there all along.

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Postby Dashinvaine (GN) » Sun May 01, 2005 1:58 pm

:?: Why would an artist paint the last supper, omit the chalice form the table and half hide it in the wall behind? It makes absolutely no sense, to me.
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Postby Anonymous » Sun May 01, 2005 3:30 pm

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The Holy Grail/Chalice means the "Indwelling of God", it is found literally within, upon the "Sacred Marriage" of the Union of Polarities that has been acheived by certain individuals on certain paths thus enabling the Holy Spirit to enter - first of all and most importantly - secondly, because of this, there have been human "Holy Grails/Chalices" and are oft referred to as "Cup Bearers", there have been several throughout history, which leads to lastly, there have been an assortment of "items", relics, that have been used by some of these human "Holy Grails" throughout history and thus were empowered at that time with the "essence" of their Master's power but never thee source of that power......
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Postby Vortex » Sun May 01, 2005 8:20 pm

Very strange website, the image looks a tad doctored...or photochopped.

I did a search on the Last Supper and check out various images and this grail isn't visible or apparent in the original. There are a few sites that use a similar photo, but I don't know how authentic it is, or if it really is the cleaned up original, but take a look at some of them.

http://www.followyourdreams.net/TheMast ... avinci.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... stsupr.JPG

http://www.graceinternational.org/LLS2.jpg

Strange none the less. Could be nothing more than a trick of light or the various paint layers. My question would be - if it is a grail, cup, etc. is there any importance to who its over? I forget the saint, but one female saint has the eucharist over her head or that's how she's depicted, I wonder if this couldn't be seen as something similar.

But its a chin scratcher.
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After Restoration image

Postby Anonymous » Mon May 02, 2005 9:22 am

Good eye Vortex. Apparently the image on the website was taken after the restoration of the painting. The restoration took 20 years to finish. It seems they repainted over it, basically if the info I'm reading is correct. I was at the Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan back in 1995 when they were restoring it. It is a very large painting that fills the whole wall of the church. The picture at the site was of the painting after the restoration.

after the restoration: Image

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~lbianco/project/gallery.html

It appears to be there in other links after searching for 'after restoration' in Google also. So the images on the link I gave you weren't doctered just enhanced.

hope that helps,
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Postby jim » Mon May 02, 2005 11:13 am

Here's a site that allows you to zoom in very close to the picture as it is now.
http://milano.arounder.com/PROJECTS/SANTA_MARIA_DELLE_GRAZIE/

You can also get another "perspective" on the grail at my site:
http://www.davincisecrets.com

please stop by my forum and leave your comments, good or bad I would like to know what you think.
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Postby Vortex » Mon May 02, 2005 2:13 pm

what I find interesting is the italian site you linked, yes there's a half circle there and some detailing and a solid bar. When you pull back and compare it to other sites, it looks like a "grail" above the head to a degree, but at the italian site, its a bit more of a stretch to really call it a "Grail" when your up close.

The other thing that I do wonder about is the coves where said grail is. The coves on the left with the "Grail" are higher than the ones on the right. Everything is aligned and heading toward a vanishing point, I wonder why the left is higher than the right.

I don't know, jury is still out on this one for me.
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Postby Dashinvaine (GN) » Tue May 03, 2005 3:35 am

It is clearly just a painted pannel on the side of a doorway. Whether it was intended as a double-image I can't say, but I would have to ask again, why take the cup off the table and hide it in the background?
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Postby Anonymous » Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:19 pm

The real Holy Grail Challice has a very long stem without all of the fancy stuff, and I believe is a hardened carved wooden challice. It is definitely not the one pictured in the painting.
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Postby Anonymous » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:57 pm

Hi Moderators,

You are both right, as the Holy Grail is an object, but one of an etheral, or heavenly nature. It is Mother Mary, who annonces that one has the Holy Grail, and it is Christ Himself, who givith the Grail cup to drink from ( when after one is told to get on their knees ).

The Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant are very closely intertwined, and are accessible etherally, after one has been given the Holy Grail. One has to learn to take in a lot of energy, and such as there is a lot of power contained in the Ark. The greatest power seems to be between the two angels....actually cherubs.....on the top of the ARK.

There is also a scroll, golden in color with some kind of raised design on it, and a stone to go inside of and learn from the lady of the stone...a teacher, and a great, white light.

The search for the Grail is an effort that should be taken within.....as a spiritual journey.

I enjoy reading your posts....

Sincerely,

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Postby Anonymous » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:47 pm

The search for the Grail is an effort that should be taken within.....as a spiritual journey.




ABSOLUTELY!!! :P
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